Monday, February 14, 2011

FOX News will work against Ron Paul

One might say they're already starting (embedding for the following video disabled by FOX FAUX News).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QS0sCJujoI


Here's another video of clips from various "news" organizations downplaying the event and subsequent straw poll results to which I must ask: "If it doesn't mean anything then why has Mitt Romney been sinking so much time and effort into it?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeCkZyx83m8

5 comments:

dmarks said...

Just what we need, another Ron Paul national campaign. In my area, his supporters were known as rude slobs who harassed people giving speeches, and also trashed church parking lots with litter.

Paul won't get far, just as Ralph Nader won't on the left. There's no chance for real success as long as you represent and campaign for the interests of 2 or 3% of the American people.

cwhiatt said...

That's a shame that the supporters in your area have left an impression on you which seems to suggest you believe all of his supporters to behave in this manner.

I don't dispute that Ron Paul has very little if any chance of winning. The game is designed as such that meaningful debate, discussions, ideas, philosophy, and the like pay second fiddle to sound bites, generalities, platitudes, and the general facade; the dog and pony show; the circus if you will of hair, makeup, and charisma.

For all the right's criticisms of Obama being an empty suit, they sure seem to have their own closet full.

dmarks said...

They didn't leave such an "impression".

These were their actual actions.

1) The Ron Paul campaign trashed the parking lot of the church I go to, tossing hundreds of fliers on the ground.

2) The governor came to speak at a convention center. The Ron Paul supporters tried to shout her down, interfering with her right to free speech, and the right of her and her supporters to assembly.

If they want to shout their insults, they should have gone somewhere where it would not harass and disrupt someone.

Well, it's not all supporters? Or course. But it was the organized Ron Paul campaign in my area. Rude garbage-tossing slobs.

"The game is designed as such that meaningful debate, discussions, ideas, philosophy, and the like pay second fiddle..."

Not at all. The fact is that all but a tiny percentage think he's on the fringe, just like their opinion of Nader. There is no "game".

If anything, the "mainstream media" actually amplifies what little support/interest these fringe performers have.

Don't make up some conspiracy theory of supression of his messages to make up for the fact that him and his ideas are extremely unpopular.

cwhiatt said...

"Not at all. The fact is that all but a tiny percentage think he's on the fringe, just like their opinion of Nader. There is no "game".

Did you watch any of the GOP primary debates in 2008? Have you forgotten that that supposed "fair and balanced" outfit actually precluded RP from one?

It speaks volumes when people who purport to favor Constitutional government; limited government can simply way someone off as a kook or on the fringe. It speaks directly to my earlier point that people aren't interested in any meaningful discussion or debate on the issues (such as getting into the substantive reasons they disagree with RP's positions. It's far easier to simply write him off as out in left field. It's an argument to be sure just not a very good one.)

It's not some "conspiracy theory" either that they suppressed Ron Paul and his message in 2008.

FOX News edited a 2008 debate wherein Ron Paul stated his Consititutional voting record as well as pointed out that Robert Taft didn't want us to be in NATO, borrowing money from China to finance the empire....etc.

Following the debate, that "fair and balanced" outfit refused to re-air that portion of the debate.

What's more, they precluded him from another debate just prior to the NH primary in 2008 drawing criticism from the Republican state party chair as well.

dmarks said...

"Did you watch any of the GOP primary debates in 2008? Have you forgotten that that supposed "fair and balanced" outfit actually precluded RP from one?"

The debate organizers are under no obligation to invite comedians for color commentary, no matter how vocal tiny minorities are.

"borrowing money from China to finance the empire....etc."

Talk about kook views. The completely false claims of some sort of American "empire".

Yes, I reject him and his ideas. I reject his antisemitism. I reject his well-documented racist rants against male African-Americans. I reject his attempt to get rid of the 14th Amendment.